Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar Subject: Back pain: guitar supports, chairs, etc. Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 13:36:29 -0500 With all the discussion of guitar supports, back pain, etc., I thought I would share my experience with the hope that I might say something that is useful to you. I have been recovering from lower back pain as a result of improper posture and a bad chair. Here are some tips and ideas: 1. See a professional. I have been seeing a physical therapist who has given me exercises and stretches that have significantly reduced my back pain. Since there are many causes for back pain, and since it can be a serious problem for guitarists, I think self-diagnosis is unwise. When you consider how much you've spent on your guitar and various accesories, the price of visits to a medical professional doesn't seem so bad. My pain was a result of bad posture and a bad chair. So the following comments are specific to this problem. 2. Get a good chair! You would be surprised how much of a difference the right chair can make. We guitarists tend to sit near the edge of a chair; thus, no matter what kind of "ergonomic" chair you get, you are probably not benefitting from any of its features. Specifically, a great lumbar support does little good if your back isn't up against it. This is often the case when we sit forward on a chair. As most guitarists I know can't stand to sit back in a chair (position gets uncomfortable for playing), it makes sense to reevaluate your chair. First, try turning your chair 45 degrees and sitting on the corner instead of the edge. You may find this is more comfortable, as it affords your legs greater freedom of movement. However, you will soon find that there probably still isn't enough back support (if any). I started checking out triangular chairs. I looked into the Guitar Chair (advertised in many magazines), but since they don't market them in stores, it's difficult to assess. Then I tried a drum throne. Aha! The seat is well-cushioned, shaped like a large bicycle seat to allow great freedom for the legs, and a nice one comes with a back support. It makes sense--drummers remain seated for hours, so of course their seating is well-designed (Why not the same for CG? Who knows?). I only recently happened on this idea, and I still haven't purchased a drum throne yet. I need to try out a few more models before I make a decision. Check them out--it may do the trick. One more plus--they are relatively inexpensive. I have found a nice model for $80. Compared to a folding chair, this seems like a lot, but when you consider how much you will spend in physical therapy due to your folding chair it's not too bad. The Guitar Chair is $299 plus shipping (I'm not knocking the Guitar Chair, as I have no basis to do so. Just quoting the price for comparison). 3. Once you get a good chair, you may find that the guitar stool is no longer problematic. If it still bothers you , then try one of the many guitar support devices recently reviewed in the NG. Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar Subject: Re: Back pain: guitar supports, chairs, etc. Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:07:44 GMT > Then I tried a drum throne. Aha! The seat is well-cushioned, shaped > like a large bicycle seat to allow great freedom for the legs, and a > nice one comes with a back support. It makes sense--drummers remain > seated for hours, so of course their seating is well-designed (Why not > the same for CG? Who knows?). I only recently happened on this idea, > and I still haven't purchased a drum throne yet. I need to try out a > few more models before I make a decision. Check them out--it may do the > trick. , I've been playing with a drum seat for about a year. A couple things to check before you purchase. First, some of the drum seats with back supports (especially the cheaper ones) have a tendency to tip over easily when you lean back. I'm playing one with a five-star base, so it is very stable. Second, try it with your guitar. If the seat is too large, it may put your guitar at an uncomfortable angle. I do enjoy mine. It was not the cheapest on the market, but it was still below the list price of most of the guitar chairs I've seen advertised.