From: Jean Bynum Subject: Re: 4th finger collapse? Date: Sun, 10 Dec 1995 01:02:36 -0500 I remember when my 4th finger would collapse like that (when I was an undergraduate music major! :( ) A few things I did that helped: 1. I tried to position my hand around my 4th finger. By that, I mean I got my 4th finger in place and stretched my other fingers back, instead of starting with the 1st finger and stretching up. A teacher can help a lot, but it's the kind of thing that requires so many small adjustments that you also have to be very self-aware and willing to experiment on your own. 2. I practiced placing and removing my 4th finger with the curve I wanted without worrying about what pitch I produced. This strengthened the joint somewhat and helped my hand to know the feeling needed. While doing this, I also found that using less pressure on the string made it less likely the middle joint would break. As the joint got stronger I could use the weight needed to produce a clear note. 3. I also tried putting my 4th finger down with the nail joint flexed backwards, instead of curved outwards. Again, pitch didn't matter.This forced the middle joint to bend the way I wanted. This seems like something that could really injure you if you're not careful! I only did it a little bit and made sure not to press too hard. 4. Gentle stretching and strengthening also helped. I would put my 4th finger down with a curve, again not worrying about pitch, and stretch backwards with 1, 2 or 3. (NEVER to the point of pain.) I also squeezed a small piece of foam rubber with my 4th finger. Basically, anything that causes you to work with that joint in the flexed position without excessive strain should help. My 4th finger had always been weak. I was pleasantly surprised by how quickly these things did help, although I don't remember now how long it actually took. Good luck! Jean Bynum ========================================================================== From: Eve Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bowed-strings Subject: Re: Double jointed pinky Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 08:19:44 -0500 Try to keep the base of the finger, part closest to the hand, closer to the neck and also try to place pinky on its tip, rather than the fleshy part of the top of the finger. Also, give your finger time to strengthen - many pupils complain of weak 4ths simply because it's not used much. Start using 4s on everything for awhile to get it stronger. Hope this is helpful. Eve Warner kwarner@one.net